Sep 20
I won my fantasy football match for the second week in a row. That puts my record at, obviously, 2-0 which places me alone at the top of my division. And barring a significant combination of unlikely events I should handily win my match this weekend as well. Considering that I joined the league with the singular and less-than-lofty goal of ‘not finishing in last place,’ my results so far are pleasantly unexpected. I realize that this is only week 3 of 16, but the bar has been raised – indeed, off the very ground – and there is now a growing belief that I might actually be able to win this whole damn thing. That would likely be seen less as a victory for me than an embarrassment for my opponents. It would not be me who won, but rather them who lost.
My vanquished opponent from this past week was my roommate Bill, who, upon being so completely served, felt such shame that he packed up his belongings and moved out of the apartment.
Alright, it is possible that the one had nothing to do with the other, but he is gone just the same. If you wanted to write him a letter just address the envelope to Wyvern’s Bitch and affix a Libertyville zip code. No doubt the postman will know who you mean.
But seriously folks, with Bill’s randomly sudden departure I am left with an under-occupied three bedroom apartment. Because we signed our new (one year) lease less than two months ago, it is unreasonable for Matt and I to make up the missing rent for ten months. Rather than shack up with (and then get murdered by) some Craig’s List sketchball, it makes sense to just pay the penalty fee and break our lease.
We can save some money on that penalty if we simply switch into a smaller apartment within the same complex. Instead of paying a Lease Breaking Fee we instead pay a smaller Transfer Fee and then make a smooth transition to the lower rent. It is basically just a math problem – you know, that stuff that you will never, ever need in real life.
So… $1310 per month / 2 people = $660 per month per person. Breaking the lease costs one month’s rent and requires one month’s notice so $1310 x 2 = $2620. That is effectively the cost to stay until October 30th, at which point we would begin paying rent at some other, unrelated apartment which I estimate at $1100 per month. So as of November 1 we would have burned $3720 ($2620 + $1100) plus moving costs (boxes, truck, etc).
Now, to transfer within the same complex we would pay a $500 fee (cleaning fee + transfer penalty) plus a prorated combination of both our old rent and the new rent – because we can’t move into the new unit until the first week of October. And so as of November 1 we will have paid the $500 fee + $1220 prorated October rent + $1100 November rent = a total of $2820 plus moving expenses.
So swapping apartments only saves us $900, or about $450 per person, versus leaving completely.
Continuing the thought… if we were instead to just stay in our current situation and pay the higher rent we would be paying an extra $110 per person per month (($1320-$1100) / 2) versus the cost of the smaller apartment – which multiplies simply to $1100 extra per person for the rest of our lease.
With the moving penalties and costs subtracted we would each be paying an extra $800 to stay here for the year. So now we have to consider the benefits of the current situation over the hypothetical one. Our place is really nice, but is it worth $800? Maybe, maybe not. Further, that number will be lowered if we hold Bill accountable for part of our loss – basically, a penalty for hanging us out to dry like this.
But while considering a new rental my mind drifted to that third, as yet un-considered option. What if we didn’t rent? What if we owned?
The benefits of owning property have long been extolled by people much older, and perhaps more worldly and wise than I. Though not quite spoken in a whisper, the advice is offered with reverence just the same. Being young and poor I would always nod and smile, but maybe now is the time to finally listen. Out of sheer curiosity I did a quick search on Realtor.com for available homes in my area. Picking a random house off the first page – my methods always scientific – I was a bit amazed to find that I can buy what looks to be a nice 3-bed, 3-bath two-story house, located less than one mile away from me, for only $200,000. Now, I obviously don’t have $200,000, but with very limited research into mortgages and loan rates it looks as if I can own that house for about $1500 per month. Better still, unlike paying rent that $1500 is an investment that I can hope, if not expect, to get back when I sell the property sometime in the future.
Now, I don’t know much at all about the process, but talks are already underway with my parents. They will have a much better idea as to the realities of this situation. I have asked that a decision, at least one way or the other, be made in the relatively near future. I don’t want to move twice, and the longer we stay here the higher the financial penalty and the lower the incentive to move at all.
Still, I am excited for the possibility.
September 20th, 2007
what’re the rates at now? i haven’t looked into them and have only briefly been paying attention to what is said on the news, but from what it sounds like, rates are much higher now. just curious.
September 20th, 2007
A couple of things you didn’t mention about owning. The good news is you should be able to deduct your interest and taxes of your house which will significantly lower your effective monthly payment.
The first bad news is that with the recent slump the Vegas housing market has been one of, if not the hardest hit in the nation because of the mass overbuilding that had been taking place (prices have declined roughly 5% since last year), so you shouldn’t always assume your property will be increasing in value in the short term. Second, you wouldn’t be getting that $1500/mo back as if you sold say 5 years from now, only ~15% of that would actually be principal (the rest being interest, taxes and insurance). Lastly when stuff breaks, or needs upgrading it’s out of your wallet, and if you choose to sell due to moving to a new city in the next few years, you will have to pay a lot of fees from that.
September 20th, 2007
First off, if I were you I would stay in my current apartment. The hassle of moving is well…a big hassle once you start doing it and there will be unexpected costs along the way(break something maybe?). I’d make Bill chip in or fully pay what was expected of him when he signed the lease.
You’re right about owning > renting. It’s a no brainer that owning is way the better idea than renting, you’re building equity instead of paying a landlord. Lukas brings up good points though where broken stuff and lawn maintenance (desert?) comes out of your own pocket. Heck you could potentially rent out a bedroom to someone or rent the entire house to someone for more than your mortgage payment costs you.
The fact that there is a surplus in housing actually means prices are going down and it is subsequently a good time to buy a home pretty much anywhere. The short term investment probably doesn’t look very pretty but it has to be in the long term. People always need a place to live and our population isn’t exactly declining.
I want to buy a house too and have looked more than a few times; my problem is I don’t know where I want to permanently live. I don’t particularly like the midwest but our family & my job is here and it makes it easier if it were. If you actually buy a house somewhere I might be interested in cohabitation once my current lease is up.
September 20th, 2007
Oh and good job on fantasy football
September 20th, 2007
Thats why I mentioned it would be difficult to buy a place if you weren’t sure you were even living there past a year or two. I’m undecided as well, I’d most likely buy something if I moved back to Chicago or SF but if I live on the east coast I doubt it would be long-term.
September 20th, 2007
Lukas, because Vegas’s market is so low wouldn’t that mean that now is a good time to buy? I realize the short term implications aren’t amazing, but Las Vegas isn’t going anywhere and the population continues to grow. They may have overbuilt but the market will adjust for that given enough time.
September 20th, 2007
Note, I didn’t say it isn’t a good time to buy. It should be a very good time to buy in the next 6-18 months. All I said was that you shouldn’t assume your property will be increasing in value in the short term. In the event you moved shortly and wanted to sell your house you very possibly could have negative equity.
September 20th, 2007
gotcha.
September 21st, 2007
Jason, call me. Unless you are planning to live in Vegas for at least 3 years I’m not sure it’s a good idea. Your math equation needs to factor in the closing costs of purchase. We actually considered helping you and Matt buy a place when you first went out there, but I recommended against it because I knew that 1) 40% of the Vegas market was being driven by specualtors at the time, 2) people were being too lax with their lending and that the crash was coming and 3) it wasn’t clear how long you and Matt would be out there. I also think that things will get worse for the next year or so. Ifyou decide to move within a year you may not be able to sell for what you paid for it. How much do you like gambling? I also suggest that you consider a condo or townhome. I don’t see you wanting to deal with the lawn (no snow shoveling to worry about) and overall maintenance and with a condo that’s taken care of. Your credit rating is excellent so you should have credit available, but in today’s market you will likely need at least 5% or 10% down. The days of $500 down are gone. Do you have that? Call me. I happen to know a bit about the mortgage market…..
September 21st, 2007
just an fyi, no lawns in vegas. Only rocks.
September 22nd, 2007
You never liked mowing the lawn anyway, so that’s a plus…